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PART 3:ORAL HISTORIES NYFD FROM SEPTEMBER 11TH,2001

File No. 9110253 
WORLD TRADE CENTER
TASK FORCE INTERVIEW
FIREFIGHTER RICHARD BANACISKI
Interview Date: December 6, 2001
Transcribed by Elisabeth F. Nason
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BATTALION CHIEF KENAHAN: December 6, 2001. The time is 3:30 p.m. This is Battalion Chief Kenahan of the Safety Battalion of the Fire Department of the City of New York. I'm conducting an interview with Rich Banaciski of Ladder 22.

Q. Please tell us the events of September 11 as you recall them?

A. We got the alarm for us to respond, just, I would say, a minute after the second plane had hit the tower. Then they actually came over the voice alarm. Actually told the companies to respond outlet. We responded in and it was all the west side companies were actually all running down together, down the West Side Highway, because it was closed going northbound. So we could see what was going on, the two towers, both of them burning pretty good and then we got into, down to the site. We were at the corner of West and Vesey. That's where we parked the rig, in front of the Verizon building. 

We were told to bring extra cylinders. We each brought our extra cylinders and we brought our rollups, the whole thing, and we reported in to the command post, which was in front of -- I think it was the Merrill Lynch building. There was a parking garage. There were two ramps that went in that parking garage.

Q. On West Street?

A. On West Street. We reported in to there and I remember they had the command post set up. They were telling the engines to the one side, all the trucks to the other side, put your cylinders in the middle. We were there. They were getting the command structure going. I just remember we were -- initially we were out by the street and they started having jumpers, so they all kind of moved back towards the parking garage, towards the building, so nothing would come down on us. 

We were there I don't know, maybe 10, 15 minutes and then I just remember there was just an explosion. It seemed like on television they blow up these buildings. It seemed like it was going all the way around like a belt, all these explosions. Everybody just said run and we all turned around and we ran into the parking garage because that's basically where we were. Running forward would be running towards it. Not thinking that this building is coming down. We just thought there was going to be a big explosion, stuff was going to come down.[Implosion-1 Jet Fuel-0 DC]

There was just a tremendous cloud that came into the parking garage. Somebody actually laid out a search rope, I think it was the officer of 76 Engine too, Lieutenant Farrington. He laid out a search rope so some of the guys could find their way to a back door, set up a back staircase in the Merrill Lynch building. We followed that up and we ended up coming out behind the building where the Marina is. Back in there. A lot of guys made their way out there.

We kind of -- from there we kind of regrouped together because we lost each other when the building came down. We all ran, so we kind of regrouped there, got ourselves together. Then there was a lot of people not knowing what to do, do you know what I mean.

I said to the officer, I'm going to go look for our chauffeur and I knew he parked the rig right in front of the Verizon building. I went up there. I started looking for him. He had moved the rig, not knowing now -- now I know, but he had moved the rig. I'm not exactly sure where he put it, but I went to go look for him because I couldn't get him on the radio due to the amount of radio traffic. People looking for this guy, this guy, companies looking for their own  guys.

So I was kind of looking around over there, up and down West Street and looking on Vesey and I just remember there was a police officer standing there and he just started saying, it's starting to lean, it's starting to lean. I remember looking up, looking at the second building and just seeing it starting to move. I just started running back down Vesey towards the water again to where I had come from. That's -- the second building came down there.

So we kind of -- same thing, there was a time period where people were kind of in shock, not knowing what to do. I just remember we finally said we got to go somewhere now. We got to figure out what's going on.

I remember going back up Vesey to West and then they were telling us to go north. Go north up on West Street, because there is a foot bridge north, like an arched foot bridge. Had everybody going north of that. We will regroup up there.

I just remember that's when I started seeing all the guys coming in from home, all the guys from the company and we actually -- everybody from this house, we stuck together and we actually from there, a little bit of time, maybe an hour or so, they actually started telling us to go here, go there. They moved us from one spot, they moved us on to Vesey again. Because then they were worried about -- we actually searched the Verizon building, because there was reports of firemen there. Basically our whole house searched that building.

They told us to get out of there because they were worried about 7 World Trade Center, which is right behind it, coming down. We were up on the upper floors of the Verizon building looking at it. You could just see the whole bottom corner of the building was gone. We could look right out over to where the Trade Centers were because we were that high up. Looking over the smaller buildings. I just remember it was tremendous, tremendous fires going on. 

Finally they pulled us out. They said all right, get out of that building because that 7, they were really worried about. They pulled us out of there and then they regrouped everybody on Vesey Street, between the water and West Street. They put everybody back in there.

Finally it did come down. From there -- this is much later on in the day, because every day we were so worried about that building we didn't really want to get people close. They were trying to limit the amount of people that were in there. Finally it did come down. That's when they let the guys go on. I just remember we started searching around all the rigs.

That was basically the rest of the day, the rest of the night. We were searching around rigs looking for men. That was it.

BATTALION CHIEF KENAHAN: All right.

Q. Do you have anything else to add?

A. No.

BATTALION CHIEF KENAHAN: Okay. Thank you very much for your cooperation. The time now is 3:45 p.m. This concludes the interview.

File No. 9110428
WORLD TRADE CENTER
TASK FORCE INTERVIEW
FIREFIGHTER ALBERT BARRY
Interview Date: January 9, 2002
Transcribed by Laurie A. Collins 
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CHIEF CONGIUSTA: The time is 1200 hours. This is Battalion Chief Frank Congiusta of the Safety Battalion of the Fire Department of New York. I'm conducting an interview with the following individual.

FIREFIGHTER BARRY: Firefighter Albert Barry, Engine 65, third grade.

CHIEF CONGIUSTA: The interview is being conducted at the quarters of Engine 65, and it's regarding the events of September 11th, 2001.

Q. Okay, Al, do you want to give your story?

A. Okay. We got the call at 9 a.m., third due on the fifth alarm. We rolled up to West Street and Vesey where our chauffeur let us off. We grabbed the rollups, an extra bottle, and proceeded to the north tower and entered the lobby area through a broken window.

I believe we went up the A stairwell. It was pretty congested with civilians coming down. We kept telling the civilians to stay to the right, we're moving up to the left. We made it to about the 16th floor when the south tower collapsed.

We did not know that. This is all hindsight, of course. The only thing that I can recall that happened was there was a big whoosh of air that pushed from the south up to the north. The building moved a little bit, nothing out of the ordinary, I guess.

From there we made it to about the 20th floor when we heard a radio signal for a mayday to remove ourselves from there, the building was in eminent collapse. On our way down, the stairwell was pretty much fluid. We were sharing air with civilians.

Nobody that we came down with was injured in any way just some civilian was hyperventilating. There was, I recall, an older woman that was being carried down by some civilians in a chair. We told the civilians to put her down and we immediately took command of her, checked her vitals, and she was all right.

I helped carry her down a little bit. Then we passed her along to some other civilians who carried her down some more. It was a quicker pace because people were making room for her to  come down. 

I guess we got to about maybe the fifth floor, and the power was out. There was a bit of a smoky condition at that point. But everybody continued down. Nobody was running. It was very calm. 

Once we made it to the lobby, (inaudible) seemed to be a triage set up in the lobby area. Our lieutenant said there's no need for us to be in here, let's make our way out the way we came in, and that's what we did. Once we came out the window, there was debris all over the place.

I've been told that Chief Al Turi was directing everybody to move north. He was screaming at the top of his lungs, "Go north!" with a megaphone in his hand, he wasn't even using the megaphone.

We took a few steps out, turned around, and the north tower was coming down. It was coming down on our back. That's when we just started running up, and at that point 65 Engine got separated.

I made it through the smoke, through  the debris, once everything cleared. Being that 65 Engine was separated, once we made it up to Stuyvesant High School, that's when everybody was pulled back together. 65 Engine was brought together again. 

That's about it, the long and short of it.

Q. Okay. I just have a couple questions.

A. Go ahead.

Q. Did they give you a specific task? In other words, when you came in, did they tell you to go to the 30th floor or the 50th floor? 

A. Yes, there was a chief, I guess it was at the staging area. There was basically just one chief standing there saying, "All right, you guys make your way up to the north tower." I don't know --

Q. He didn't tell you to go to the 30th floor or the 50th floor?

A. No. He just said make your way up to the north tower. That was it. We got our rollups and gear and everything else and that's it. That's about it, then.


File No. 9110013
WORLD TRADE CENTER
TASK FORCE INTERVIEW
EMT ANTHONY BARTOLOMEY
Interview Date: October 9, 2001
Transcribed by Nancy Francis
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MS. BASTEDENBECK: Today's date is October 9th, 2001. The time is 0916 hours. This is Christine Bastedenbeck of the Fire Department of the City of New York. I'm with Christopher Eccleston. We're conducting an interview with the following individual:

Q. Please state your name, rank, title, and your assigned command of the Fire Department regarding the events of September llth, 2001.

A. My name is Anthony Bartolomey, an EMT assigned to EMS Battalion 4.

Q. What unit were you working on September 11?

A. 02 Bravo Tour I.

Q. Who were you working with on that day?

A. Pasquale Felitti.

Q. On that morning, were you assigned to the World Trade Center? 

A. Yes.

Q. Approximately what time?

A. At approximately 8:55 a.m.

Q. At approximately what time did you arrive?

A. At about 8: 58.

Q. On your way there, were you able to see anything that was happening?

A. Debris floating in the air from the towers, people running away from the towers and vehicles left abandoned in the street. We were approaching from Broadway coming westbound on Cortlandt Street. There were two taxicabs and a soda truck left abandoned by their drivers. My partner actually got out of the vehicle and pulled the vehicles over to the side so we could get the ambulance through. We made a right turn onto Church Street, parked on Church and Fulton in front of the Millenium Hotel on the southeast corner.

Q. When you arrived there, did any civilians report anything to you?[This gentleman was one of the first on scene D.C]

A. Yes. Numerous civilians were telling me that a plane had hit the building. There were discrepancies as to the type of plane. Some were saying it was a Cessna or Leer jet type, a small jet plane. Some said it was a large passenger plane. One person actually said that it was like a military style plane that actually shot missiles into the building.[And that is a resounding slam dunk right there,hell they were arguing the type plane to this guy,so Planes-7,Military style-1 No Planes-0 D.C]

Q. Who did you report to when you first got there?

A. When we got there, there were no supervisors on the scene. We reported to a paramedic unit from New York Downtown, I believe it was 1 Victor. They're paramedics based out of Beekman Downtown Hospital.  They had had their vehicle on the corner of Vesey and Church, on the southwest corner, in front of 5 World Trade by Borders Bookstore. They already had three patients in their vehicle. There were more patients approaching as we had gotten there. So we grabbed our equipment out of our vehicle and walked up a block to them. It was them and a crew from 1 Adam was there also treating some patients. Nobody had established staging at that time yet, or, if they had, it hadn't come up over the radio. So pretty much we stayed where we were and started to treat patients there.

Q. That was where; at the corner of --
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A. The corner of Vesey and Church Street.

Q. Okay. Then just tell me the events that you remember happening. 

A. Then as we were starting to treat some more patients, we heard rumbling. We thought maybe it was debris falling from the tower. You look up and you see the flame of the plane hitting the second building. When you see the footage on TV, you see it fly in one side and the fireball shot out through the other side. We actually saw the fireball shot out from the north side of that building. 

Everybody got behind the vehicle to brace  themselves against any debris that was coming down. Debris came down. There was glass and metal hitting the ground around us. That's when we decided to get out of that area because we didn't know what else was going to come down on us. So we got the people that were able to walk from there, we got them to walk, got ourselves out of there. 

I'm not sure where my partner went after that. I went towards the subway station on Church Street in front of that cemetery. It's by the Trinity Church annex. Because people were standing there just like deer in the headlights kind of thing, just staring.

Q. Did you walk at that point?

A. I ran, actually.

Q. You ran. Okay.

A. It was only across the street because we were on the west side of the street. The subway station is on the east side. There's a double entrance. Two stairways converge into one. They go down into the mezzanine level. People were just standing there. I was telling them get down, get underground, because they're sitting there while stuff is still falling on them. So I get them down there

That's where I started finding patients and apparently somebody was there with -- I guess he must have been treated and the crew that was there ran and he got left behind because he had a cervical collar and he had a triage tag around his neck. So I had a couple of civilians help me carry him down the stairs to the bottom, to the mezzanine level, where the token clerk is, put him there, and then they had another patient who was a female. She had fallen and hit her head. She had a lump about the size of a golf ball on her forehead. She was going in and out of consciousness. We put her down next to the other guy. Then there was an elderly female who felt weak in the legs and was unable to walk. So now I had three patients there in front of the token booth. 

So I go back upstairs, come up on the radio, let them know, you know, I'm half crew. I don't know where my partner is. I've got three patients not able to walk. I need somebody to get them out of there because at that point I had no equipment on me either. Slowly but surely the police started coming down with some equipment to help carry the patients out. We got the third one out of there. I forget exactly what time. It was right before the towers fell, which that was about between 9:55 and 10:00, approximately. Because we had gotten back upstairs with the last patient and there was nobody around. There were police officers there saying the tower was in danger of collapse and so they were evacuating the immediate area. 

So we went up one block to Barclay Street. We were still on Church walking northbound. We got to St. Peter's Church, and I'm not sure who these people were, I'm not sure if they were federal or plainclothes police officers also, told us start setting up a triage over in front of St. Peter's Church because at this point nobody really was sure where everybody was going. So anybody who could walk was walking, getting out of the immediate area. 

So we still had this one guy on a long board with a collar on him, and they brought one other person over who was in a stair chair. I forget exactly what his injuries were. I believe he had hurt his ankle or something like that. That's when we heard the rumbling of the tower starting to collapse and we started to get people inside the church because you saw the cloud of the smoke and the soot that was kicked up when the tower fell. At the rate of speed it was coming up the street, we weren't going to be able to outrun it, so we decided the best bet would be to get back in inside. We got who we could inside. I got caught outside of the church when the dust cloud overcame me and then I felt my way back in. There were some other officers and people inside the church, and we waited there until the dust subsided a little bit so we could get out. 
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At that point I lost track of time. I couldn't tell you exactly what time everything happened after that. We get outside I was complaining my throat was burning from breathing in -- I don't think how long I was outside breathing in all the soot and everything. There was a unit from Booth Memorial Hospital, another ambulance unit. They already had patients in their vehicle. They took me and told me to go with them, and then they brought me up to Roosevelt Hospital. 

Q. And you became a patient there?

A. Yes.

Q. Where were you when the second tower collapsed? 

A. I'm not sure because, like I said, I lost track of time. So I'm not sure if I was still in the church when the second tower came down because we were in there for quite a while before you could see outside enough to step out because the soot and the dust, the black in the sky to the point where it looked like it was nighttime outside. 

Q. You said you ended up going to the hospital with a Booth Memorial unit? 

A. Yes. 

Q. In the time that you were down at the scene of the Trade Center, did you run into any EMTs or paramedics that you knew? 

A. I ran into one, but I didn't know him. He said he was from Brooklyn. 

Q. Was he on duty or off duty, in a uniform? 

A. He had the uniform shirt, but he was wearing jeans, so I'm assuming he was off duty at the time. 

Q. But you didn't know his name? 

A. I didn't know who he was. He just said he worked out of Brooklyn. 

Q. The only place you went prior to the collapse was into the subway station? 

A. Yes. 

Q. And that was -- 

A. The E train. It's the World Trade Center station of the E train. 

Q. From which street did you enter into that? 

A. From Church Street in between I believe it's Cortlandt -- no. Fulton and Vesey. Right here in front of St. Paul's cemetery. 

Q. You never went into the Trade Center buildings themselves? 

A. No. The closest I got was in the front, right here, where Borders Bookstore was, which is right over here. That was as close as I got. I never actually went inside the building, no. 

Q. So for the first collapse you had gone to St. Peter's Church? 

A. Yes. 

Q. As the building came down and the cloud of smoke approached you, you felt your way into the church? 

A. Yes. 

Q. Then you came outside and you're not even aware of when the second tower came down? 

A. No. 

Q. Do you know approximately what time you became a patient? 

A. That would probably be around between 10:30 and 11:00. I have the paperwork from the hospital. I don't have it with me. But it would tell you what time I got to the hospital and the time I was released. 

Q. Okay. Is there anything else that you'd like to include in the interview, anything you want to say? 

A. No, that's about it. 

MS. BASTEDENBECK: Then this concludes the interview with EMT Anthony Bartolomey. The time now is 9:28 on October 9, 2001.  

File No. 9110105
WORLD TRADE CENTER
TASK FORCE INTERVIEW
EMS CHIEF JAMES BASILE
Interview Date: October 17, 2001
Transcribed by Laurie A. Collins 
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MS. BASTEDENBECK: Today is October 17th, 2001. The time is 839 hours. My name is Christine Bastedenbeck from the New York Fire Department. I'm here to conduct an interview with the following individual. 

CHIEF BASILE: Chief JAMES BASILE, B-A-S-I-L-E, EMS operations, EMS Division 2 commander.

MS. BASTEDENBECK: Also present for the interview -- 

MR. ECCLESTON: Christopher Eccleston from the New York City Fire Department World Trade Center disaster task force.

Q. Chief, I'm just going to ask you if you can recount the events of September 11th, 2001.

A. I first became aware of the World Trade Center incident from my staff, who was watching the morning news. They had turned on the news, and we had seen the original plane had struck tower number one of the World Trade Center. At that point we started to monitor the radio activities here, the CAD job. 

Within a few minutes, the other building was struck. At that point I called the Citywide Dispatch Supervisor, informing them we were available if necessary. I felt at that point based on the magnitude of the incident that I should respond.

So I responded from Division 2's office with paramedic Louis Cook. We traveled Pelham Parkway onto the Hutchison River Parkway to the Whitestone Bridge, where we had seen the magnitude of the incident outplayed firsthand. From the Whitestone Bridge, we entered the Whitestone Expressway onto the Van Wyck Expressway onto the Long Island Expressway, where we started to take a real perspective of the incident because of the closer we had gotten. 

By the time we reached the Queens Midtown Expressway, that perception now before the tunnel, we had seen how big it really was. My greatest fear was additional attacks at that point, knowing past history with terrorists and how they operate. 

By the time we got to the tunnel, there must have been 20-25 vehicles behind us, a few cars in front of us. Chief Hirth was in front of us. Chief Carrasquillo was also in front of us.We got into the tunnel. We had clear access into the tunnel and onto 34th Street and the FDR Drive. 

We traveled the FDR Drive, came through the tunnel down in lower Manhattan and out onto the West Side Highway. I parked the vehicle at approximately West Street and I believe it was Albany to Carlisle. It might have been Albany.

Q. Can you just indicate with the number 1?

A. Carlisle to Rector or Albany. I'm going to put a 1 here.

I exited the vehicle with all my appropriate gear and walked up to the command post, which was located adjacent to the Winter Garden theater at that point. I met with Chief Jerry Gombo and Chief Walter Kowalczyk and was directed to go into the lobby of number One World Trade Center at that point. The buildings are still up and intact.

Louis Cook and I went in together. We found out it was very dangerous entering the premise, that there was numerous parts of the building and other foreign bodies being thrown around from the higher floors.

We entered the lobby. There I met Citywide Truck Commander Joseph Callan, Fire Division 1 Commander Chief Hayden and Fire Battalion 1 Joe Pfeifer, Safety Battalion Chief Stephen King, Father Judge, and OEM Port Authority officials in the command post within the lobby of number one.

We were looking to effect a way of exit for personnel in the building and a place where we could establish treatment sites. I advised the incident commander that was in the Trade Center with me that access from the front of the building was inappropriate and that we should look for other exits. That's when I sent Louis Cook with a Port Authority cop to find a different access for civilians and public safety personnel to come in on. 

We were operating in the lobby, and all of a sudden we heard the roar of a jet engine, is what it sounded like. We thought that there was another plane coming into the building. We went from the lobby area into an elevator bank area -- escalators that led into the concourse area. So there was essentially a wall that we went around from the command post area to the escalator area.

Not two seconds later debris and dust started to come in, and essentially we were just shut down. Everything was dark, pitch-black.

Q. Before the collapse, was the lobby still lit?

A. The lobby was functional. When I first arrived there, there appeared to be a lot of people there. The Port Authority had set up some type of chain to help lead people out. I would say within the last two minutes before building two had fallen that the bulk of the people were out of the lobby and it was essentially just the Fire, Port Authority and OEM personnel with me. The lobby was essentially clear.

Q. Did you go into any of the stairways or did you stay in the lobby?

A. I just stayed in the lobby at that point. We heard the roar of the jet -- what I thought was a jet coming in, and I believe the others did, and we went into the escalator area for shelter.

Everybody got down on the ground. There was some debris that fell. There was a lot of soot and dust. It was pitch-black. The only light that we had was the handheld lanterns, and there was a photographer, a video crew that was following one of the battalion chiefs, that he provided some light.

All access to the lobby area was cut off, and any egress from that level was cut off. I opted to grab a hold of a Port Authority cop who knew the building well and ask for another way out. We ventured to take the escalator up into the concourse level.

I went up to the concourse level. All the glass had been shattered out at that point. We were able to get out. I saw people starting to come out from the building on the concourse. I met with Fire Battalion Chief Turner and a few other firemen -- I don't know their names -- and assisted in moving patients, civilians, out.

I did some quick treatment of a couple of patients. One gentleman had a severe gash to his forearm. I don't know how, but he had gauze with him. So I wrapped him up. I effectively was able to bring out about 300 civilians from  the building at that point in the matter of, I guess, 12, 15 minutes.

We were helping people over large areas of debris and channelling them, trying to keep them calm, bringing them over to a walkway that led to number Seven World Trade Center.

When the majority of the civilians were out, I waited a few minutes. There was nobody else coming out. I had a feeling, a gut feeling inside that it was time for me to leave. So I started walking. I went over the walking bridge to number seven. I went into the second level or the main lobby of number seven and walked down the escalator.

As I was approaching the corner of West and Vesey, I heard over the radio that the building was leaning. As I was crossing West Street, that's when I heard that jet sound again. I knew that the building was coming down. I made it about -- somewhere between West and North End there was a fence, approximately, I guess, 200 feet or maybe 100 yards away. I decided to use that as a wall to protect myself from any debris, not knowing what the extent of the magnitude was going to be. 

I brought a couple of civilians down with me, a couple of firefighters, I brought them close to the ground. I covered them with my turnout coat with me. I essentially waited and figured that was it, it was all over, because of the proximity to where we were to where the building was.

It went down, got filled with this dust and dirt, debris, again, this cloud. I opened up my eyes. It was total darkness I guess for about two, three minutes. I thought I guess this is what it's like to be dead. Then I heard a woman screaming next to me, and I said I guess we're still all here. So that was good.

We waited until we were able to see a little light. I was able to get the woman up. We went into a bagel store which was located at North End and Vesey, where we took some water. I gave her water and a couple other people. At the back of the deli counter in the kitchen area, they had like a little portable shower, I guess a dish shower. We hosed each other down.

I went into a building off of River Terrace, I believe, and Vesey where a lot of the chiefs had regrouped. I met with Chief Kowalczyk, Gombo. I don't remember the other chiefs that were there at the time. Essentially we were trying to put a plan together of what we were going to do.

I was directed at that point to set up a treatment site over at the ferry terminal. Louie Cook and I, we wound up finding each other. I thought he was a goner too. I didn't know where he was. I thought it was all over.

We met, and we took a few minutes out. I told Louis, I said, "We're not going back to the West Side Highway. We're going to walk around if necessary." So we were walking down North End. We were down by the yacht harbor. Louie Cook saw a boats mate who was sweeping debris off of one of the boats.

He called out to the boatsmate and asked him, "Do you have a dingy?" The guy said, "Yeah, what do you need?" He said, "Well, we need a ride out to the ferry terminal." He said, "Okay." So we wound up having a zodiac inflatable boat.

Actually it was a good respite because we were able to get away from the scene for a little bit and clear our heads and the air was clear and we were able to see the magnitude of what had just happened with us.

We got into the zodiac, and we traveled down the Hudson River to the MIL, the marine input center, the Coast Guard station, where they dock their vessels. Of course Louie got off, and he was going to hold the boat for me, and then we got carried out into the water. Then something jammed in the propeller, so we're stranded out there.

I saw some Coast Guard or some New York City cops in another zodiac. I tried to wave them down, and they zipped by. Five minutes later Louie is trying to throw me a life preserver on a rope, which got about two feet off of the pier. It was comical, to say the least. He was able to unwrap the rope from the propeller, and we got started again. I got up the ladder, and I exited.

At that point we went over to the ferry terminal. There were some EMS crews there already. I'm not positive whether I met Dr. Cherson at that point or if it was slightly thereafter, but in essence we took over the second floor of the ferry terminal and we established a medical treatment site.

We had moved all the benches out. We had prioritized all the areas as far as treatments. A number of physicians and health care professionals had come in, civilians from the street. Dominic Maggiore was there at the time and helped set up the treatment and staging areas.

Essentially I spent the best part of the day there, trying to get things established, thinking that there was going to be a mass exodus to the ferry terminal, patients looking for treatment, at least everybody going back to Staten Island.

In essence we didn't treat that many patients. We did about five transports, one being Deputy Chief Robert Browne. He had staggered in. He had severe conjunctiva of both eyes and some back pain. He was immobilized and transported to Penninsular General.

About 4:30 I was asked to go over to the command post which is located at Chambers and West, so I had gotten together -- I was with Mark Steffens, Fred Villani and Louie Cook. We picked up the car, brushed it off. There was about four or five inches of dust on the car.

We traversed around the east side of Manhattan, tried to get to Chambers and West. We had gotten to -- I don't know what street this is -- Washington. We were at Washington and Chambers when we saw number seven come down. That was about 5:20. We watched that come down. We watched this plume of smoke coming at us.

I just drove up the block, and I said, "Everybody stay in the car." We waited for everything. 

We went to the command post. I was shot for the day. I had severe conjunctiva. I couldn't breathe. I came back at 6 the next morning. 

Q. Anything else you want to add?

A. That's it. I think everybody's story is going to tell it.

MS. BASTEDENBECK: This concludes the J. BASTILE 14 interview. The time now is 855 hours. Thank you, Chief.

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